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great news for the new day family. reminder, you get to see more mikhailly, root speciaspecial -- michaela, root specialist, her and anderson cooper. a lot of news, let's get you right to the newsroom and mis-carol. >> congrats to everyone, and i'm not drinking the water anywherer in your set. >> be careful, carroll. have a great day. >> newsroom starts now. happening now in "newsroom." possible new sighting of police ambush suspect eric frein, a woman walking in the woods sees a man carrying a rainfall with mud covering his face. also, i was patient zero, speaking out against online bullying saying she wants to put her suffering to good use, but is she too late? and air bag danger, a massive new recall affecting millions of you at urgent alert
about a deadly defect, recommending you take action as in right now. let's talk right now in the cnn newsroom. good morning to you, thank you so much for joining me. we begin with breaking news and chilling investigation into a possible serial killer. police track down darren deon van after a weekend murder inside a hotel room in hammond, indiana. victim, africa hardy. you're going to see her in a minute, she's on the far left. van led them to six more bodies, all these bim appear to have been recently dumped like garbage in abandon home in gary, indiana. all were found within a five mile area in the town. the mother of one victim says the killer likely preyed on women who lived on the fringes. >> they're not forgotten because they're not nobodies. they're somebodies.
they're somebody's daughter, somebody's mother, somebody's sister. >> the boyfriend, you're going to see her on the far right. says he doesn't know how to tell their two-year-old son their mother would not be coming home. >> right now he's at school, you know, i've got to figure out, he's been asking for mommy a lot, and the only thing i could tell him, mommy's not here right now. >> poppy har slow in gary -- harlow is in gary, indiana, right now. tell us more. >> reporter: this is incredibly troubling, what we know is the gary, indiana police, hammond police department are scouring this area looking for potentially anymore bodies because they do not know if this string of murders ends at those seven bodies that have been found. look, when you talk about the 43-year-old suspect, darren van, you're talking about someone with a very long criminal
history. convicted of aggravated rape in 2009, served five years in prison. has a criminal record going back to 1993, a police affidavit that we just obtained, carroll, says in 2004 he grabbed a woman with gasoline and a lighter and threatened to burn him and the woman if police came any closer. >> that is the man we are talking about, we know the names of four of his alleged victims. we are waiting for the names of the others. i had a chance late last night to talk to the chief police here in gary, indiana, about why this man is on the street, listen. was darren van monitored by your police department? someone who served five years in jail, registered sex offender? >> well the sex offender's are through the lake county sheriff's department, and mr. van was in september, and they did make contact with him in september. >> reporter: given the fact that he was monitored as recently as september, and everything you're
saying checked out, do you think that the system needs to change so something like this doesn't happen again? >> well, it's a possibility that it can always be tweaked. and there can always be some changes. >> reporter: what do you think? your the police chief of this town that's going through this nightmare. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: does this make you want to change things, we need to keep a closer eye on people like this who've been convicted of violent sexual crimes in the past? >> most definitely. i mean whenever you get someone of this nature who can do this, i mean, you want those balances, those checks and balances in place, and you want them to be -- >> reporter: what are you going to do about it? >> we'll see if question go to legislation and see what we can do. >> reporter: so carroll, now he's in police custody, but clearly this is someone who served five years in prison, has a very, very troubled history, and clearly the monitoring failed. >> well, well the thing that i'm astounded by, so he threatens this woman with gasoline, i
don't know if he served time for that, aggravated rape, only five years in prison? only five years? >> reporter: yes. yes, carroll, and that is, that is what we're very surprised about. we're trying to figure out if he served any time for what he did to that woman, grabbing her, threatening her life back in 2004. i asked the police chief what is darren van's mental state? and he said it was, quote, normal. apparently he has been incredibly cooperative with police, leading them over the last few days to these six other houses, abandoned homes where they found those other bodies. and he has not specifically said there are more bodies, but we know that he, that police are still looking for more. and the question is, is this going to cross borders into another state? if so, this is going to become an fbi investigation, carroll, it is incredibly troubling and you can imagine for this small community of gary and hammond, now knowing that at least seven people have been murdered.
we know he's been charged in the murder of africa hardy, and we're waiting to see if there are charges in the other murders where he's led to those bodies. >> all right poppy harlow, gary indiana, this morning. oscar pistorius is being processed in prison at this hour after a judge sentenced the one-time olympic athlete for the shooting death of reeva steenkamp. he faces five years in prison for culpable homicide. that charge means a person was killed unintentionally, but unlawfully. pistorius can ask for patrol after serving ten months of his sentence. we have been covering the trial, she joins us live from south africa, tell us more, robin. >> reporter: hi there, windy here i must say. extraordinary scenes because there was so ornery, anticlimax in fact as we were sitting there waiting and as the judge was delivering that decision. they really was an overall lack
of emotion, there was silence. pistorius himself was stoic, stoney-faced. none of that crying, and even vomiting we've seen at some of the key moments of the trial. he seemed to really understand and accept what he was able to go to. he was led down into the cells, into the holding cells as he said, he is now in prison, being processed. i spoke to him in the last few weeks, there was an acceptance that he might have to go to jail. he said he wasn't scared, he wasn't afraid, he hoped he could contribute while he was in jail, perhaps helping people to read or do a gym club or whatever. beyond that, there's also the sense of his family. acknowledging the pain that he's caused, not just them, but also reeva steenkamp's family. take a listen to what oscar pistorius's brother said to me yesterday, just before the sentencing. this has been a trial thicked by drama at times, changes, delays,
what has been the most difficult for you guys? watching it from that front row in the court? >> it is a heart wrenching thing. and having lost our mother at a young age is, it's an anguish that you feel. when you know that someone sells going through deep, deep pain. >> reporter: so the anguish of the steenkamp family, they've been sitting in court, her mother particularly there nearly every day. also, often quite emotional, but definitely very brave, very strong, through some gruesome, quite telling evidence of the condition of her daughter's body at some stages. sop this is a family whose obviously gone through a lot of heart ache, but it's interesting that they've issued a statement through their lawyers where they say effectively they are satisfied with the sentence. they're glad this is all over. that justice has been done.
and interestingly also, the judge kind of speak to them saying that she hoped they'd find closure through this judgment. >> all right, robin reporting live from south africa this morning. should jodi arias die in arizona. arias was found guilty of first-degree murder last year in the brutal killing of her ex-boyfriend, but that jury was unable to reach a unanimous vote needed for the death penalty, 12-0 vote will also be needed in this retrial. if all jurors can't vote for death, they'll then decide whether arias gets life without patrol or the possibility of release after 25 years. schools are closed this morning in parts of northeast pennsylvania in the wake of a second reported sighting of alleged cop-killer eric frein. pocono mountains school district, the largest in northeastern pennsylvania did not explain their closure in this morning's alert, but they weren't alone.
two other schools in the area also shut their doors after a local law enforcement official apparently spotted the fugitive near a local post office. on friday, another witness says she came within feet of the killer who was in the woods near his former high school. she said he was covered in mud, and he was carrying a scoped rifle. >> yeah, he was kind of like holding the gun down and facing away from me, then when he had turned is when i was able -- as soon as i saw that gun, i ran. it was very alarming and, you know, creepy. how he showed no, like reaction, and like it was like avoigd contact. maybe he was close they are way because he plans on either a doing something, or he's just done. he's done and he doesn't care. obviously he cared enough to get away. >> cnn's alexander field joins us now with more, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carroll. we've seen in the last day based on those sightings is the entire
search area shifting. we're now about ten miles south of where the search is focussed over the last five weeks in this sixth week now, swiftwater, pennsylvania. this is an area near frein's former high school. formerly searchers have been looking in the area near his family home. again, this switch being prompted by two recent sightings, just yesterday, law enforcement officer reported seeing a man in the woods dressed in green, they tried to follow that person, lost track of him, but we saw a big swarm of police activity in the area as they swept this area looking for the suspect whose been on the run since september 12th. we saw the search lead up top one home enore's back door. he said he came home and found u.s. marshals in his yard looking at the nearby woods. and also then going into his house. they told the homeowner that a canine traced his scent to the door. of course that hus was cleared. they cannot find the suspect there, but this is what we are routinely seeing, a sighting, tip, something reported that will prompt a massive search of
an area. authorities try clear and look for the next possible sighting. again authorities came to this area after reported sighting on friday. that was when a woman out for a walk near an empty house say she is saw someone, face covered in mud, that person carrying a rifle. police thought it was credible enough to turn their attention here to the swiftwater area. >> reporting live live this morning. 7.9 million cars have now been recalled because of exploding air bags. don't think a defective air sbag a threat to you or loved ones, think again. federal safety regulators say if it explodes, it can send metal fragments flying into your face and neck. chief business correspondent kristene romans joining me live with details. >> this is urgent. it's a federal safety regulators are saying, carroll, this is an urgent sthachgs car owners need to take very seriously for millions of you, you are driving a car that could have an air bag when it inflates, pieces of plastic and metal go flying
through, through the cabin and seriously harm or injure you. here are the automatic affected. i want to show you what the ticotta air bags are in these cars here. and the u.s. government is telling you to get them fixed immediately. here's one of the concerns. there might no be all the parts throughout, carroll, tote gem fixed immediately. toyota in some cases is saying it's going to disable the air bags and tell people not to put a passenger in the front seat, it is safer not to drive with the air bag than to have it inflated. you need to check, you need to check the vin number of your car, make very, take very close care that if this is one of your cars, you need to talk to the manufacturer. >> and pray you don't have an accident. >> there was a woman in florida, her family is convinced when will the accident was discovered, police thought it was a homicide because she looked like she had been stabbed. had not been in a car accident because actually the thing meant to protect her had sent projectiles to her. i mean very, very dangerous
situation. now what the government is saying and what the automakers is saying, it's a problem in the humid areas, florida, the gulf coast, puerto rico, this is where they're very concerned about specifically this kind of inflater of this. air bag. so in these humid areas, the golf coast, that's where you need to pay attention. most don't take their cares in. one in five saurnd recall. >> oh. >> if air bag something your car, do not develope not overlook it. >> thanks christine. >> you're welcome. top stories this tuesday morning. your flight back home for thanksgiving will cost you a whole lot more this year, domestic fares are up 17%, averaging $467. this is airlines just approved a $4 round trip fare hike. turkey now says it will allow iraqi kurdish fighters to use its territory to across into syria and help defend kobani
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they all lost their lives because of preventable medical errors, now the third leading cause of death. only heart disease and cancer take more lives. proposition 46 will save lives with drug and alcohol testing to make sure impaired doctors don't treat someone you love. safeguards against prescription drug abuse. and holds the medical industry accountable for mistakes. i'm barbara boxer. let's save lives. vote yes on 46. monica lewinsky calls the
online harassment she receive the first real moment, bad moment of social media. and she views herself as quote, patient zero. the first foreign have their reputation destroyed by the internet. now the former white house intern is back in the spotlight with a new mission inspired in part by her experiences. that mission, to end cyber bullying. martin savage has more for you. >> if i seem nervous, forgive me because i am. and a little emotional. >> reporter: it is surprising to hear a woman famous for intimate sexual acts with the president sounding shy, but there was no mistakes who she is. >> my name is monica lewinsky. >> reporter: the once 22-year-old white house intern is now 41. and launching a mission to combat online bullying. >> i want to put my suffering to good use and give purpose to my past. >> reporter: it was her 1995 affair with president bill clinton that made her, as she
put it, patient zero, when it came to cyber harassment. long before facebook or twitter. >> but there were gossip news, and entertainment websites replete with comment sections and e-mails could be forwarded. of course, it was all done on the excruciatingly slow dial up. yet around the world, this story went. a viral phenomenon that you could argue was the first moment of truly social media. >> reporter: at times, lewinsky got emotional. >> staring at the computer screen, i sent the day -- spent the day shouting, oh my god, and i can't believe they put that in, or that's so out of context. and those were the only thoughts that interrupted a relentless mantra in my head.
i want to die. >> reporter: instead, it was the death in 2010 of tyler clemente she says prompted her new life. he killed himself after his roommate used a web cam to stream an internet encounter online. it deeply hurt lewinsky's mother and monica understood why. >> she might very easily have lost me. when i too might have been humiliated to death. >> reporter: she also used the speech to give her take on the affair that made her a household name. >> 16 years ago, fresh out of college, a 22-year-old intern in the white house, and more than averagely romantic, i fell in love with my boss. in a 22-year-old sort of way. it happened.
but my boss, was the president of the united states. that probably happens less often. now, i deeply regretted for many reasons, not the least of which is because people were hurt, and that's never okay. >> reporter: after nearly a decade of self-imposed seclusion, a strong-sounded monica lewinsky sounds to be launching a comeback, taking on a cause she knows only too well. >> having survived myself, what i want to do now is help other victims of the shame game survive too. >> reporter: martin savage, cnn. >> let's talk about that, the shame game. lewinsky made those games at forbes 30 under 30 summit. join me now as the editor randall lane, good morning, randall. >> good morning. >> i found is really fascinating
that monica lewinsky joked that most of them probably didn't know who she was because they're too young. why did you chose her as a speaker -- choose her as a speaker? >> in some ways, that was the beauty, 100% of them didn't know who she was. they didn't know all the details, but that's what made it a pure moment, these are people who knew that she was famous and knew why, they didn't know the back story, but they all relate. people under 30, there's not a single person under 30 who has not been cyber bullied or knows somebody that's been cyber bullied. so to them, to hear from the first person ever to have, and it's indisputable, you know, those of us a certain age, the drudge report link was forwarded and what not. this was the first person ever to have her reputation trashed worldwide instantly for them to hear that story, it was incredibly relatable, it was incredibly powerful, and what happened at the end, you had 1500 people of the biggest,
greatest, young entrepreneurs and game changers in the world gave her a standing ovation. >> wow. and it must say, you know, you talk about cyber bullying and reading twitter. she was cyber bullied all through her speech. >> by people who weren't there. people who were there were tweeting how amazing it was. and that's the beauty of the speech, when you hear her story, then you realize how coarse it is, how coarse some people can be via the internet, and it just makes them look so much worse when you hear how she receives it as the person in the middle of it. it was an incredibly powerful moment, and even the people who were slinging hate on her, they just look awful because when you hear her story in that room, there were hundreds of people crying through that speech. it was an incredible moment. it was incredibly brave speech in many ways, she really opened
up. >> wow. so what part of her speech struck the audience the most, do you think? >> i think the idea, everybody of course knew, you know, why she was famous. and the mistake you made, her being at the end of 30 summit, here's somebody who made a huge mistake in her 20s. so when you're young, you can make mistakes that'll change your life. what she'd had to live through, and how she experienced in a way that's very relevant to today, that connection, i mean, people afterwards were coming up, hugging her, and applauding her. it was, it was amazing to see her through the eyes of these people who again, knew who she was, knew the basic stories, but got to live it now through a different lens which is what was it like to be her? >> randall lane, editor of forbes magazine, thanks, i appreciate your being with me this morning. >> of course.
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happening now in the newsroom, breaking overnight, strict new ebola guidelines issued by the cdc, vigorous training, how to put the hazmat suits on, it is it too late too late? fangate, overshadowed by a death fan, keeping cool. and play ball, just don't say royals in san francisco. andy on the road for us in kc. let's talk live in the cnn newsroom. good morning, i'm carroll ka still low, thank you for joining me, the world health organization, the who says ebola vaccines could be tested in the next few weeks, including the united states. by january, those vaccine trials
will expand to hard hit west african nations where thousands have died. the global health agency also plans to test experimental ebola drugs elsewhere. today's announcement comes one day after the cdc updated its own guidelines to better protect care givers. one of them of course, dallas nurse amber vinson, she's being treated for ebola in atlanta. but before her diagnosis, vinson flew to ohio after getting the okay from the cdc. vinson's mother, speaking out while in quarantine telling c nan in no way was her daughter careless. >> she would not have placed her life at risk first of all. just again being a care giver because she needs to be healthy so she can help others. andy, you're right, also to not effect anyone negatively. and then being her mom, amber would never do anything to
negatively impact me. >> let's talk about all of this. i'm joined by national reporter vince valencia, here dr. debbie -- i'm going to mess up your name again. >> it's okay. give it a shot if you want. >> that's perfect. >> see. dr. debbie's with me, now she's the assistant professor of rehabilitation at the ny school of medicine. welcome. nick, i want to start with you though and i want to talk about the new guidelines, what are they? >> yeah, good morning, carroll. the cdc director says that this will provide an increased margin of safety for those treating the virus and it's based on those already treating ebola patients. boils down to three main requirements. someone repeated training in the dawning and doffing that's taking off and putting back on the removal, the ppe, i'm sorry, the personal protective equipment that these doctors will be using, second is making sure that no skin is exposed
during that process, and third is the buddy system. having a train monitor there during the removal process of the personal protective equipment, cdc director frieden says that the old guidelines were clearly not enough for texas presbyterian. we saw dozens of nurses stand front and center in solidarity with the hospital, meanwhile, carroll is also a big day if five additional patients that are being monitored for ebola-like symptoms. i spoke to clay jenkins and he tells me he should have an update on their conditions and whether or not they're going cleared from this so-called watch list around 10:00 a.m. eastern. carroll. >> okay, is that you putting on the protective suit, nick and that i saw in the pictures? >> yeah. actually earlier this week, i was in annstone, alabama, where the cdc had instructors, and they're training workers on their way to those three countries if he west africa affected by this outbreak. and a lot is repetition. it's muscle memory.
they've had a lot of demand too. these are doctors and nurses that are sponsored by ngo's here in the united states and are going to the so-called hot zone. initially it was supposed to stop in january, but they've extended that because they've gotten inquiries. i asked if there's a chance that domestic workers would have the same training, people here in domestic hospitals, they said that's on the table, but so far it's just for people who are going west africa, carroll. >> all right, nick. so dr. debbie, i'll ask you about the guidelines. so, if kind of seems like common sense, of course all of your skin has to be covered. we have to wonder -- >> i agree. i agree. i don't think there's a big revelation there. i think it would be more help ffl they listed out actually where people are most likely to have problems. so for me, just having worked in the o.r., we wear the shoe covers so we don't get blood on our shoes, right, and question dispose those covers. it's very hard even if you're wearing sneakers to wrap them around your foot and get them off. a lot of times people will hold
it against the wall to pull it around. if you do that, you might get something on the wall that could contaminate somebody else. having people that have done this in west africa, watching, using them as trained monitors, would be more effective. and even with the googles, now they've changed that to face shields, that's changed, but still, if you think about doing these procedures, you know, you know, people have had this experience in the winter where it kind of fogs up, you know, you're breathing heavily. your eyes are covered, and it becomes difficult to see. i would worry also about people doing procedures in this year because there's more chance of maybe getting a needle stick or some kind of other problem when you're not used to doing the things. >> maybe the best practice would be to transport patients to the hospitals and special niez treating cases. >> that's what i think too. i think it's important for people to know how to dawn into office gear because if somebody comes into their hospital, then at least they'll be prepared. one other thing aye been wondering, we formed this strike team, the pentagon has formed
one, why not have the strike team go to parkt's homes as pooded to seeing them in the hospital? we know the people at highest risk are the ones coming from west africa, right? why not give them a sheet with a number to call if they have fevers. then rather than potentially infecting people in the ambulance and along the way in the er, have somebody talk to them on the phone and maybe the strike team directly to the house or the hotel. >> here's the number to the cdc. thank you so much, i appreciate it. >> thanks. still to come, a murder suspect leads them to even more bodies. and floors that seem fresh decades later. the haunting legacy of a serial killer cast a long shadow on to this town. we'll talk to one of the last lawyers to represent john wayne gacy.
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trying to unravel the movements of a possible serial killer. >> they say darren deion van confessed to a weekend murder and led them to six more bodies. all appear to have been recent victims, dumped in abandoned homes across the city just a half hour drive from chicago. and that dredges up haunting memories of the chicago contractor implicated in the murders of 33 men and boys. she is a long time trial attorney who represented the serial killer in his final set of death rows appeals, welcome tina. >> good morning, carroll. >> thank you for being here. do you see any similarities in these cases? >> i absolutely do. you know, serial killers are basically evolved predators. these are people who are very manipulative, they know thousand choose their victims, they know thousand choose people who may not be missed right away. lure people in with manipulation and charm and wit, and they know thousand kill swiftly and to hide bodies. and move on with their lives.
and live in kind of a due police distance life, one part of this life is they're successful, may be family people and other part is a dark side. there's similarities here. >> so if van, this most recent serial killer in gary, indiana, is indeed confessing as police say he is, why would he come clean now? >> yeah. you know it's interesting, a lot of serial kill doers that. and you know for one reason is they're proud of their accomplishments. these are people who don't understand that what they did is really, really wrong. they're proud, they have a good memory of these crimes, they may even have kept souvenirs, and they want to show the place they're in control and they know where the bodies are and can describe in great detail what happened. there's also a part where they may be unburdening themselves. this guy may have been committing murders for 20 years or so prior to this time, we don't know that yet, after all the anxiety and all of the build-up, it may be a release to finally say, i did this one and also these other ones.
>> so you spent hundreds of hours talking to gacy, what was it like to talk to him? >> it's so strange because these people hide under the idea of normalcy. so when you're talking to him, it's not like you're looking evil in the face. you would think he'd be, you know, having fangs and blood dripping off of them, but no, these are very normal people who know thousand cope and they know how to imitate true emotion. so the truth of the matter is, gacy was charming, he was ma nip la ty, witty, and intelligent. and you wouldn't know he was a serial killer also you knew what he did. >> just so strange. so back to darren van for just a second, he's led police to, at least six bodies. do you think there'll be more? >> my guess, and it's only guess, would be that there are more. and here's why. usually serial killers will escalate at the end when they almost want to get caught. and it looks like he's killed the last seven people in a very short period of time. he was a sex offender back in
texas some years ago, and there's some idea that he killed other people from before. so the idea is he probably started slowly, and it started to escalate, and so i think my guess is we're going go back and see that he's been doing there this for a long period of time, maybe some of the runaways and prostitutes who may be people weren't looking for them as, you know, aggressively as they should have been, are going to turn up to be his victims. >> karen, thanks so much, i appreciate it. >> you're welcome, carol. >> aisle be right back. -- i'll be right back.
who could forget a flap over a fan thrust the florida governor's race into the national spotlight. this electric fan, there it is, was used by democratic candidate charlie crist in an attempt to keep from sweating during a recent debate. but that did not sit well with his republican rival, and current florida governor rick scott. scott refused to come on stage saying the fan violated debate rules. well, tonight, the men will square off again in their third and final debate hosted by cnn. joining me now from jacksonville, with a preview is cnn susan malvo, so come on, is
the fan going to make another appearance? >> carroll, i guess that's why in some ways we are here to watch and see what happens with this fan. he had it back since 2000 when he ran for the education commissioner. >> i don't know, but we're looking for it. one of the other reasons why we're here carol of course is because the florida is the largest swing state in the country. this is the most expensive midterm race, more than $62 million in ads alone for those candidates, and also who wins the governor position here. the seat will largely depend an impact who becomes the next president in 2016. >> reporter: in florida, it's the battle between the current governor and former governor. the incumbent republican rick scott fighting for a second term. >> he's a good talker, he's slick, polished with, smooth, but not happens when he was governor. he had the job before and he
didn't do it. >> reporter: his challenger turned democrat, former governor charlie crist. >> why we would reelect this guy if he's not willing to answer questions is beyond me. and that's why i don't think we're going to retlekt this guy. >> reporter: the biggest controversy from this contest which made national headlines came from a fan, no, not a supporter, but an actual fan at last wednesday's debate. >> that are that reason, ladies and gentlemen, i am being told that governor scott will not join us for this debate. >> reporter: debate organizers say crist broke the rules by using the fan. the live audience waited seven minutes before scott eventually showed up. scott tried to down play the incident which was widely spoofed as fangate. >> i don't care if he brings a microwave, if he brings a humidifier -- >> reporter: but scott is getting big name support from probably the most popular republican in the state, former
governor, jeb bush. crist is also getting high profile backers from first lady michelle obama and vice president joe biden. >> he didn't lead the republic, it left him. >> reporter: on the air, both sides have also waged a tough and expensive fight. together spending more than $62 million in ads. according to the non-partisan center for public integrity. most of it spent on negative ads. >> when rick scott cut education by over a billion dollars, thousands of them lost their jobs. >> reporter: republicans shot back with the web ad spoofing the popular reality tv show, say yes to the dress. >> i like the charlie crist. it's expensive and a little outdated, but i know best. >> reporter: carol, neither one is particularly popular in the state. we have unfavorables hovering in the last polls at 52, 53%. both are in a dead heat for this
race at 44%. they can't really stress enough, carol, thousand race could impact -- how this race could impact 2015. if you have the democrat in the governor's house, in the mansion, then you are talking about a good base for hillary clinton, the fan cnn does have some rules laying this out tonight. it says no opening no closing statements, no ropes, props or electronic kwies devices. so a notebook, pen, water. could bit battery operated? >> i was going to say that! >> we don't know. we'll see. >> i think it quite aptly illustrates the state of our lix today. susan malveaux, thanks so much. you can watch tonight's debate between the florida governor
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thank you. the world series tonight is a tale of two teams. one's up into the fall classic, the other has not made it since 1985. talk about the royals and giants world series game one tonight. cnn's andy scholes drew the lucky straw, he's in kansas city today. i envoy you! >> i'm pretty excited about this matchup. some are calling this world series team dynasty versus team destiny. one side you have to san francisco giants who've won two world series recently and then on the other side you have to kansas city royals, a perennial underdog who somehow found a way to put it all together this year. they're trying to deliver a championship to kansas city for the first time 29 years. the year was 1985. "back to the future" was the top-grossing future at the box office. >> great scott! >> mario brothers made its debut
on nintendo. and the kansas city royals were worries champions. fans in kansas city have been waiting 29 years to relive that moment. and they may get their chance soon enough. >> you hope for this day to come. you wait and you wait and you wait. and 29 years, now it's here, you're like -- it paid off. >> i've been here all of my life, season tickets with my dad. unbelievable. 1985 was awesome, 2014 again. >> reporter: winning a record eight straight games to start this post-season, the royals are on the verge of capping off one of the greats runs in professional sport history and they say their fans are part of. >> it these people are amazing. unbelievable fans. they're loyal, they're loud when we're playing. we're in this just as much as they are so we're excited to have them in our corner. >> the fashion these fans and in
community has is -- they've been waiting for this for a long time. ♪ we'll never be royals >> lorde's hit song "royals" was which was inspired by george brett has been banned by san francisco radio stations during the world series. but in kansas city it's the most popular song on the airwaves. first pitch is set after o'clock eastern time and kansas city royals fans are paying big bucks just to get into the stadium tonight. standing room only. standing room only is going for about $650 bucks. 650 bucks just to get into the stadium. >> i believe it. the other surprising aspect of this, you watch kansas city for its defense now its power hitting but its defense is so exciting it doesn't matter. who cares about home runs? >> speed, defense, and pitching. that's right. >> andy scholes, thanks so much. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" after a break.
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